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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  I agree with Fisherman's and the old JW premise. Unlike Jewishness, which is matriarchal, Sin appears to be Patriarchal.

  Jesus according to the legend, had to be a Jew. Thus he had to be born of a Jewish mother.

  IF, as the legend tells us, Jesus was Perfect, it must have been because he did not inherit imperfection from his Mother or his father. Since Jesus' mother was a human female with inherited sin, Jesus' father must have been the source of his Perfection.
  
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  UK Tax cut for the wealthiest

  by BettyHumpter in

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  Simon says, "The bitter, jealous and feeble minded only see "rich man pay less" because they are simplistic and can't do math. it's partly why they are poor."

  AMEN, BROTHER! I would only say that innumeracy is a BIG part of why people stay poor. I started out poor (welfare family in NYC and Ky), broken home (thanks to The Tower) and a semi-literate mother who thought that education wasn't important. Fortunately I took ECON 101 as an elective in High School.

  I worked hard, saved money, invested and today I am worth more than a Big Mac (at McDonald's).

  I have two idiot brothers that still attend Watchtower indoctrinations. One live alone in government housing, the other gives his time and his mind to the cult. He's an "elder" maybe soon one of the new "circuit servants" (positions will be filling soon, get your résumés in soon!
  

  
  
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  ARMAGEDDON

  by Lost in the fog in

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  can i ask please especially for all who are pomo?.

  we've taken a decision similar to revelation 18:4 to get out of the watchtower and not share in its sins.. how many of you still believe that god will one day terminate the world's many systems by means of an armageddon?.

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  I've been POMO for 46 years.

  Put me in the NOPE column.

  The myth of Armageddon is a fear technique used by sociopaths to control people because the myth of GRACE isn't violent enough.
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  Late NEWS:" Sexual harrassment is rife in Antartica".

  by smiddy3 in

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  i saw this this on the news tonight :.

  you would think the ladies down their would be able to keep their sexual urges under control wouldn`t you ?

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  It is not without good reason that the women of Antarctica are frigid.
  
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  Where is Rick Fearon?

  by Foolednomore in

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  he was not on youtube saturday?

  is he okay?.

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  Yes, HiddlessWife is correct; Reese was the primary reason for Rick's visit to the UToob dungeon,nd Rick has told his audience that Reese's pieces will be on one of Rick's alternate channels that does not use censorship the wah the Toob does.

  I support Reese's right to speak his mind freely, and I support my right not to listen to him.

  Yes, that is discrimination, and we need more of it.

  Can anyone tell me anything Johnny The Bethelite said that was not accurate?
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  I Work in a hospital 17 years religious reality death check!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  so 17 years in a hospital alot of ptsd...i sometimes go the prayer room and read the prayers of family members who i know later the loved one died anyway.

  if you have any idea about god you area kidding yourself.

  good doc live...bad doc you die!.

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  God answers prayers, but He always says, "NO, not now."
  
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  Is Jehovah WITHHOLDING something from Jesus?

  by BoogerMan in

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  (matthew 28:18) jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “all authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.. (1 corinthians 15:27) for god “subjected all things under his feet.”.

  according to the washtowel, jesus is not going to have all of jehovah's power & authority, because he'll [jesus] need 144,000 dead/resurrected humans to help him run the earth: .

  w08 5/15 p. 15 par.

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  Yes. Jesus was adopted.
  
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  Are you driven by vengeance or Payback?

  by Fisherman in

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  “there is nothing more ironic and curious than a trapper being caught in his own trap or a plot backfiring.

  ironic justice is the best revenge.” the inventor of the brazen bull, one if the most heinous torture devices in history was tricked to go inside of it and died of the torture he created.. probably one of the greatest movies ever made features revenge as its theme: once upon a time in the west.

  sadly in this movie the main character doesn’t rely on ironic justice happening by god or chance.

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  "What is best in life?"
  
  "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
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  question for those who either aux pioneered pioneered

  by enoughisenough in

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  how many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?

  i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.

  i never attempted it again.

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  I pioneered in New York City - Queens County - in the very late 1960s when the "goal" was 100 hours each month. There were times I failed to meet the goal by 10 hours or so, so I tried to make it up the following month. After I married one of my pioneer partners I had husbandly responsibilities and gave up pioneering for a job that paid me for my time. A short while later my wife followed my example - I was her spiritual head, after all - and she too found an employment that paid her for her time.

  I strongly support the concept of being PAID for one's labors.